Interesting podcast
episode attempts to keep Latin American migrants out of the US have had the
opposite impact
25:11
We built a wall to keep Mexican migrants out. In fact, the wall has
kept them in. People who would otherwise have gone home stayed so long they've put
down roots. In March of 2016, Douglas Massey, along with Jorge Durand and Karen
Pren, published a brilliant paper in the American Journal of Sociology, Why
Border Enforcement Backfired, in which they ask a hypothetical question. What would
have happened if the United States had done nothing over the past 30 years, frozen
the budget and staff of the border patrol at 1986 levels, allowed for some circular
migration?
MG
25:52
The researchers estimate the undocumented Mexican population of the
US would be about a third lower, a third lower than it is now. This is according
to the people who know more than anyone else about Mexican migration, who have access
to one of the biggest immigration databases in the world, and what is their conclusion?
That the attempt to solve the problem of illegal Mexican migrants is what has caused
the problem of illegal Mexican migrants. You can just hear the frustration in Douglas
Massey's voice.
DM
26:29
For me, I've been watching this train wreck in real time for the
past two decades, really. And I kept trying to tell people that when it comes to
border enforcement, less is more and if you militarize the border, you're going
to produce a larger undocumented population. I said this before the House Judiciary
Committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Immigration.
MG
26:49
And what happens after Massey testifies? The same thing happens every
time. Nothing.
DM
26:55
And then the ranking minority member, who's Representative King from
Texas, gets up and basically says, "Take your lying data and go home because
we know what the truth is. We're being invaded and we've got to stop this."
MG
27:09
Massey says we need to do the exact opposite of what we're doing
now. When we raised the cost of crossing the border, that shut down circulation.
If you want to restore circulation, then you should make the border easier to cross,
reduce the size of the Border Patrol; don't increase it. Make it easier for migrants
to get legal status; not harder.
DM
27:32
If you want to lower the number of Mexicans living in the United
States, give them green cards and a lot of them will go home. The US is not that
nice of a place for people, for Mexicans these days, but they have families here.
They've got US-born kids and, if they know they can come back, they'll go home.
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